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This podcast is part of the Pivot series by Jenny Blake.

When times are uncertain should we be playing it safe? We all have a different relationship to riskโ€”and recession-talk tends to turn the dial up on anxiety about what the future has in store. Today, Iโ€™m back in conversation with Adrian Klaphaak, talking about how to be pragmatic, taking the economic environment into account, while also keeping a flame lit for pursuing our bigger dreams.

You can find more episodes with Adrian in this playlist.

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